This post demonstrates yet another example of new testament confusion. I was raised in the Christian, Pentecostal, Apostolic faith, where the book of Acts is a critical book, that they base a large portion of their denominational doctrine on, more specifically, speaking in other tongues: Acts 2:3-11, Acts 10:46, and Acts 19:6. And their precept for speaking in other tongues is Mark 16:17. Tongues, tongues, tongues. The Apostolic faith is BIG on speaking in other tongues. However, not all Christians believe speaking in other tongues, is required to receive the Holy Ghost. And here’s one reason why:
◄ John 20:22 ►
And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
☝☝☝And because the person speaking in this verse is False Messiah himself, many Christian denominations place this biblical precedent over and above the account told by Luke in the book of Acts, as proof that speaking in other tongues, is not the only way to receive the Holy Ghost.
Were you taught that you HAD to speak in other tongues in order to receive the Holy Ghost? I was. And I “tarried for the Holy Ghost” more than once. Why doesn’t the bible record the disciples speaking in other tongues in John 20:22? Was John 20:22 explained to you? Because it WASN’T explained to me. From my birth, to the age of nineteen, and sitting through at least 988 church services, not including bible studies, councils, conventions, seminars and revivals; John 20:22 was never discussed, nor was it ever brought up for discussion. This also helps me understand why there are so many denominations of Christianity. The disciples received the Holy Ghost from False Messiah himself, without another tongue mentioned, let alone spoken – a full 40 days before the day of Pentecost.
Matthew chapter 10, verse 1 says, “And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them POWER against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.” <— This sounds similar to John 20:22, but again, WHERE ARE THE DIVERSE TONGUES? This is but another reason why I cannot take the New Testament seriously.
Now, if I were to say this in the presence of an indoctrinated Apostolic minister, he would probably say, “The gift of tongues didn’t come until AFTER Jesus ascended, because he was the Holy Ghost, HIMSELF! And the disciples didn’t need him to send the Comforter, seeing HE HIMSELF WAS the Comforter right there in their presence! Thank ya Jesus! Shabbah robo hondo haha!” <— Which is irrelevant and not biblical. Logically, it would have made even MORE sense for the disciples to immediately begin speaking in other tongues upon receiving the Holy Ghost directly from False Messiah. Why? Because tongues were supposed to be a SIGN! Just like all the other 4 signs and wonders:
—> Mark 16:17,18 – And these >>SIGNS<< shall follow them that believe; (1) In my name shall they cast out devils; (2) they shall speak with new tongues; (3) They shall take up serpents; (4) and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; (5) they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
☝☝☝Okay. Tongues are only ONE OF FIVE SIGNS. Yet, in Matthew chapter 10, verse 1, False Messiah gave the disciples POWER, to cast out devils and heal the sick, which they began doing RIGHT AWAY, not AFTER the day of Pentecost:
—> Matthew 10:1 – And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them POWER against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.
Out of the five SIGNS, why did the SIGN of casting out unclean spirits and the SIGN of healing all manner of sickness and disease FOLLOW the disciples right away, but the SIGN of tongues was DELAYED until the day of Pentecost? The Apostolic minister’s excuse that “The gift of tongues didn’t come until AFTER Jesus ascended, because he was the Holy Ghost, HIMSELF! And the disciples didn’t need him to send the Comforter, seeing HE HIMSELF WAS the Comforter right there in their presence” is nothing less than a deflection; it has no exegesis to support it, and it doesn’t work.
In Mark 16:17,18, when False Messiah said the phrase “These signs,” he didn’t prioritize them, he didn’t individualize them or rank them; he didn’t make any DISTINCTIONS OR DIVISIONS among them, nor did he put any time constraints on them. And no where in the new testament did False Messiah ever say, hint, allude to, suggest, imply, drop a clue, intimate or insinuate that he himself was in fact one of those signs he promised, or that he himself would be returning as the Holy Ghost. The entire argument is based on selective reasoning, because the argument is only being applied to one of five total signs, which again, False Messiah did NOT prioritize, distinguish, individualize, or put a timer on. The argument is an assumption with no exegesis to support it, as is most new testament doctrine.
John 14:16 doesn’t support the ‘False Messiah was the comforter’ argument.
◄ John 14:16 ►
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you ANOTHER Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
☝☝☝Obviously, the keyword here is, ANOTHER.
According the Greek Strong’s concordance:
◄ 243. allos ►
allos: other, another
Original Word: ἄλλος, η, ον
Part of Speech: Adjective
Phonetic Spelling: (al’-los)
Definition: other, another
Usage: other, another (of more than two), different 👀👀👀 <—
—> DIFFERENT. As in, NOT the same.
determiner & pronoun
1. a different, some other, not the same, an alternative
“she left him for another man”
2. used to refer to a different person or thing from one already mentioned or known about.
So, John 14:16 doesn’t support the ‘False Messiah was the comforter’ argument. John 14:26 doesn’t support the ‘False Messiah was the comforter’ argument, either.
◄ John 14:26 ►
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, HE shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
☝☝☝ False Messiah said the Father would send the Comforter in his NAME. He DID NOT say the Father would send the comforter as HIM; nor did he say that the Father would send HIM as the Comforter, or that the Father would send HIM in the Comforter’s name. NO. The very words out of False Messiah’s mouth indicates he was talking about someone (or something) else. Exegetically, we FOLLOW THE TEXT and let the TEXT SPEAK FOR ITSELF. We do NOT put our own words in the bible’s mouth, as do nearly ALL Christian commentators and doctrines.
When you contrast Matthew 10:1 with John 20:22 and Acts 1:8 and they all appear to be describing the same Holy Ghost power. Now, if you argue that Acts 1:5 proves that the Holy Ghost which False Messiah breathed upon his disciples in John 20:22, isn’t the same Holy Ghost as the one he promised his disciples in Acts 1:5, then what was it? Was it a DIFFERENT Holy Ghost? Is there more than one Holy Ghost? And if Acts 1:5 disproves False Messiah gave the Holy Ghost prior to the day of Pentecost, what kind of “power” did False Messiah give his disciples in Matthew 10:1? Were they casting out unclean spirits by Beelzebub, as the Pharisees made accusations in Matthew chapter 12, Mark chapter 3 and Luke chapter 11? If not by the power of the Holy Ghost, what kind of power did he give to his disciples in Matthew 10, to heal all manner of sickness and disease, and to cast out unclean spirits? If you’re a Christian, don’t debate like a bullheaded, stubborn, offended, BRAT. JUST ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.
Now, according to the text alone, the disciples received the Holy Ghost 40 days BEFORE the day of Pentecost and BEFORE False Messiah ascended. Why would False Messiah tell his disciples that the Father would send the Holy Ghost to them [at a later time, presumably on or after the day of Pentecost], in his name, and then breathe the Holy Ghost/Comforter upon them in John 20:22 – 40 days BEFORE the day of Pentecost. Either (1) False Messiah is NOT the Holy Ghost/Comforter; (2) receiving the Holy Ghost/Comforter is NOT the sign (speaking with new tongues) False Messiah was talking in Mark 16:17,18 and speaking in other tongues is NOT the only way to receive the Holy Ghost, or (3) the authors of the new testament can’t get their story straight. Whether you agree or disagree with options 1 and 2, option 3 is without a doubt, A SOLID, FACT!
If you’re stubborn and still disagree, I only have one thing to say to you. In Mark 16:17,18, False Messiah said,
—>>>THESE SIGNS<< shall follow them that believe; (1) In my name shall they cast out devils; (2) they shall speak with new tongues; (3) They shall take up serpents; (4) and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; (5) they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
In Mark 16:17,18, False Messiah did NOT prioritize, individualize, rank, put in order based on importance, put a timeframe on, or say which one (if any) of these signs were OPTIONAL! So if all you’ve ever done is speak in other tongues, you have WORK TO DO. No where in the new testament did False Messiah say speaking in other tongues is the evidence of receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost. Pentecostal denominational doctrine says that. But False Messiah never did. NOT ONCE. So, if you’re going to use Mark 16:17,18 as your proof and point of reference to support your argument for tongues being the evidence of receiving the Holy Ghost, there’s just one problem: Mark 16:17,18 doesn’t begin or end with tongues —> (1) make sure you cast out bona fide, actual, REAL DEMONS (not just people with funky attitudes) before you tell anyone you have the Holy Ghost. (2) make sure you pick up and handle WILD SNAKES (not your neighbor’s domesticated, defanged boa constrictor) before you tell ANYBODY you have the Holy Ghost. (3) make sure you have the ability to drink arsenic, cyanide, boric acid, sulfuric acid, hydrochloric acid, bleach, or some other kind of deadly liquid without any harm coming to you, before you tell ANYBODY you have the Holy Ghost (4) and make sure to add, your verified and confirmed ability to lay hands on people with cancerous tumors, AIDS, lung cancer, pneumonia, heart disease, diabetes, herpes, lupus, flesh eating bacteria, venomous snake bites, multiple sclerosis, etc, and they actually recover as a result of YOUR LAYING ON OF HANDS, before you fix your lips to tell ANYBODY you have the Holy Ghost.
Mark 16:17,18 is NOT trail mix. You don’t get to pick and choose the signs and wonders you like. If Mark 16:17,18 is your proof that speaking in other tongues is evidence that you have the Holy Ghost, make sure you obey the WHOLE VERSE and put a checkmark in all five boxes. Not just the ONE you like. Stop calling the religious fanatics up in the mountains who play with rattlesnakes, crazy. They obviously have more faith and believe in obeying the new testament, more than you do.